Do you hate vegans because you love animal suffering or because they remind you that you contribute to it? Are you annoyed by vegan activism because you want animals to continue to suffer needlessly or because you don’t want to change anything in your life to lessen animal suffering?

  • Meat eater: what about the people who pick YOUR vegetables?
  • Vegan: Wait, what do you mean MY vegetables? don't you eat vegetables as well? What are you doing for these peoples rights other than using their struggles as a convenient "gotcha card" in attempts to silence vegans from talking about non human oppression? anything? And I'm guessing since you care so much about migrant workers in poor conditions, you are doing everything in your power to fight for those working in slaughterhouses and meat packing facilities since they are known to be one of the most dangerous and unsafe work places in the entire world, yes?
  • Meat eater: Well...
  • Vegan: Don't you think you should spend a little less time trying to belittle the efforts of people who are genuinely trying to cause the least amount of damage to animals, the environment and humans, and spend more time trying to make an effort of your own?
  • Meat eater: um, I mean...
  • Meat eater: bacon lol
A message from itsjustayoyo
Okay but you can be against animal cruelty and not be a vegan. Like I eat meat but if I saw an animal being abused then I would put a stop to it. Not all animals suffer cruelty before they are killed. Some live happy and healthy lives.
A reply from vegan-vulcan

Which part about killing someone needlessly doesn’t qualify as cruelty? Or are cows, pigs, and chickens no longer considered animals?

If you SEE animal abuse, you’ll stop it, but it’s fine if it’s happening somewhere far away behind closed doors? And you’ll even pay for it to happen because you get something out of it?

Also, let’s say hypothetically that farmed animals do live “happy and healthy lives”. (They don’t, just fyi. But for argument’s sake let’s pretend that they do.) Why does treating someone with kindness for a few years mean that you’re justified in killing them? How can I say I care about someone’s wellbeing if I’m planning on slitting their throat and eating their flesh?

If someone claims to be against animal cruelty and is not doing everything within their power to abstain from animal products, they’re a fucking hypocrite. I don’t care how much you love your dog or volunteer at a shelter or donate to nonprofits…you can’t pick and choose which animals are deserving of love just because it’s convenient for you. You’re not against animal cruelty…you pay for it with every meal. Fuck off.

Innocent Lentil Sambar veg pot - possibly my new face flavour!

Innocent Lentil Sambar veg pot - possibly my new face flavour!

Delicious delicious Wok Street at @wholefoodslondon #vegan #favefood 😋🍚

Delicious delicious Wok Street at @wholefoodslondon #vegan #favefood 😋🍚

Raw chocolate tart from 222 in Fulham 😋

Raw chocolate tart from 222 in Fulham 😋

Hello baby 😍

Hello baby 😍

Amazing free lunch at work today! So good!

Amazing free lunch at work today! So good!

Pret salad and coconut water for lunchies at work the other day.

Pret salad and coconut water for lunchies at work the other day.

"Too much soy is bad for you."
People who eat meat from animals who are fed lots of soy (via learned—helplessness)
A message from Anonymous
Wait, you actually cook the meat before you eat it? Be a real fucking carnivore man, eat it raw right off the damn cow, ya weakling!
A reply from vegansmustbestopped

Um….excuse me mam/sir but I eat my meat, just the way nature intended. As a genetic meat-eater, I get my meat from a refrigerator in a supermarket where the meat is wrapped in plastic from an animal that was slaughtered miles away from my field of vision. They then cut that animal into a bunch of different pieces removed the fur, guts, shit, and in general, all the icky stuff, so I don’t have to look at it by the time it gets to me, because that’s a real turn off.

Then I watch the food network as they tell me how to cook, since obviously no animal would ever eat a raw corpse. So, I make sure to marinate, boil, saute, fry, grill, and bake it only after I tenderize, smother with salt, pepper, herbs, spices, oils, etc……and make sure it gets cooked properly because it’s dangerous to eat undercooked meat.

I’m no different than any other genetic meat-eater found in nature. Seriously, get yourself educated.

Last night’s yummy meal at Pan Asia in Berlin - delicious and we got to sit outside on pillows so extra points for that! And the the ‘best vegan chocolate sorbet’ in Berlin from a little ice cream place. I’ve not tasted any others yet so I can’t comment but it was pretty damn good…

So many vegan options in the supermarket in Berlin!! 😍🙀

So many vegan options in the supermarket in Berlin!! 😍🙀